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December 2012 JLPT Results

by on January 29, 2013

For those that registered online for the JLPT in Japan, the results for the December 2012 test became available on Tuesday the 29th. And, I excitedly checked my score at a second after midnight. Unfortunately, I experienced a little Deja Vu.

Huh? Wasn’t this the same score I got 6 months ago?

I mean, at the very least, I thought I would be able to push my listening up to a decent mark, something over 30 would have made me happy. After all, I went through two books to practice my listening, the New Kanzen Master and So-Matome. On top of that, I’ve been re-listening to all the exercises to get used to listening to more advanced conversations. Still, just one point.

And what about reading? I went through two more books for reading, New Kanzen Master and So-Matome. Both are excellent books that focus on different aspects of reading. I reviewed NKM and So-Matome before, I would still recommend them. But, unfortunately, they didn’t improve my score.

Of course, this is as they say, the nature of the beast. When I passed N2 last year, my original idea was to take it slow and steady to pass N1. I took it in July of last year to see how far I needed to go, and was pleasantly surprised that it didn’t seem very far. But, it still looks like I have a ways to go.

Gambled and Lost

My reading comprehension for longer passages of the test (the page long passages) is pretty bad. So bad actually that I was regularly getting only 1 out of 4 of the questions right. This was obviously pretty bad, and the questions themselves take up a lot of valuable time.

So on the test, I decided to skip over them in favor of spending more time on the other questions. For the 2 long comprehension questions, I simply put all 2s. It was a gamble, but I figured it was worth it because I was regularly getting 1 out of 4 right, which is pretty much the same as guessing.

It was worth a shot anyway. Well, it obviously didn’t pay off. I got the exact same score I got in July. So going forward I’ll probably try to answer all the questions, in hopes of getting more points. In other words, no more gambling for me. I learned my lesson.

The Road Forward

Reading is obviously my biggest weakness. Over the next few months, I’m going to try to review the New Kanzen Master and So-Matome reading comprehension books. Basically, I want to increase my comprehensive reading speed. I want to make the whole process a lot more automatic and smooth. The faster I can read and understand the material, the more time I will have to spend on comprehension and double-checking answers.

Speaking of time, it is definitely not going to be my friend over the next few months and probably for the next year. I’m currently in the process of making the biggest purchase of my life, a house. And that house is of course in Japan, so all the research I’m doing for that involves wading through awesome words like 軽減措置 (relief measure) or 管轄 (jurisdiction).

Also, my little angel is about to turn 1 and is already beginning the process of destroying everything in our house the moment we turn our heads. It’s going to be a busy year.

Don’t worry though, I will definitely keep the blog going and creating more regular and premium content, including monthly updates to the grammar lessons and to the kit. It has been a lot of fun sharing tips with people from around the world and I don’t want to give that up.

My studying for the N1 is going to shift to more review and more natural study methods, chatting more, reading more, and watching more Japanese TV. I feel like I ‘know’ enough to pass the test, I just need to get more confident and make everything more automatic with less hesitation and more clarity. That takes using the language more and reviewing and over-learning the material.

What is your Road Forward?

If you took the test in December 2012, what were your results? What are you going to do now? Let me know in the comments.

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virginia January 29, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Too bad about your exam results Mac. If i were you I would sit for this year’s exam on December, maybe it’s not so good to be nervous for July’s test and then go through the same for December.
I’m waiting for the overseas results to be available, I sat for N3 but i’m not confident I passed. Anyway, no matter what the result is, this year I’ll sit again for N3, I still have a lot to learn. (I have all so matome n3 books and I only finished the grammar book)
Let’s all do our best this year, gambatte!

Virginia

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:33 am

Virginia, yeah, it is a little disappointing, but I learned from it. I know my language skills have improved. I’ve started to understand a lot more just need to practice a little more. I hope you have good news about the N3, but you have the right idea, stay confident.

I’ll probably sit the July test again just to keep me motivated and on track. I don’t want to start getting lazy. :)

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Virginia February 1, 2013 at 2:43 am

You are right, sitting for the exam in july is a way to keep on track. Take it easy though, as if it were a mock test :) Save your efforts for December.
I just checked my results, I passed. I´m surprised as I was expecting the “Not Passed”… Anyway my marks were 109/180 so this year I’ll focus on reading. I scored 29/60 on dokkai. It was a good practise to know where I am right now, and what to focus on.
I was told by my Japanese teacher that 2012′s JLPT exams were pretty difficult comparing to 2011 ones. She believes that each year the difficulty changes, for example 2011 was difficult for N5-N4, and easy for N3-N2-N1, so last year the opposite happened: difficult for N1-N2-N3 and easy for N4-N5.
I don’t know it’s just her theory lol , truth is that apart from studying, it’s a matter of luck: I remember taking N4 on 2011 and finding the kanji excersise for Hantai, that kanji was not on 4kyu-3kyu kanji list, but then again, anything can happen on these new exams….

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Barbara January 29, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Sorry to hear that Mac. I’m still waiting for me – I think it’s the 31st for me. Not confident but hey ho :)

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Isaura January 29, 2013 at 5:37 pm

Overseas results will be available only in 31st January?

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Nick January 29, 2013 at 7:07 pm

Yes. They will be available on the official JLPT website on Jan 31 anytime after 5pm Japan Time (JST). You will need your examinee registration number and the password that you used while submitting your JLPT application. Good luck! I hope you pass.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:35 am

Good luck, it’s the 31st here in Japan and it still looks like the results page isn’t up. They seem a little disorganized.

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Isaura January 29, 2013 at 5:58 pm

I am sorry, too, to read your bad results, Mac! And if I were you, I would take once more N1 only in December. Maybe it isn’t too good be anxious for July’s JLPT. In addition to this, in 7th July maybe “tsuyuake”, and “atsukuteshouganai”:))

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:36 am

I was kind of thinking the opposite. If I take it again in July and not really care about the results I’ll be less nervous. At the very least, it will keep me motivated to study. :)

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Can January 29, 2013 at 11:23 pm

Hi Mac,

Don’t worry. I am sure i will not get any better.
This time round the paper was quite difficult…

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:37 am

It seemed that way. To me the listening just seemed completely different than anything I’m used to. Oh well, it was good practice. I’d like to take it again in July and see what I can do.

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nino January 30, 2013 at 1:06 am

Good on you for being very positive and thinking about the road ahead; don’t let it bring you down! And it is N1, the toughest test!!!

As for myself, I applied via mail an I think they will be sending out the results on Monday, February 4, 2013 so I should expect it in my mailbox 来週 or 再来週.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:40 am

Thanks nino, I think you learn more from failing than you do if you are successful, so I guess I learned a lot. :)

I hope you have good news next week!

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nino February 5, 2013 at 10:08 am

Got my results and fortunately I passed N4 (by the skin of my teeth)!!!!

Reading/Vocabulary/Grammar = 56/120
Listening = 36/60

On to N3!

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Graham January 30, 2013 at 1:52 am

Very disappointing news, but with continued exposure to Japanese and practice there is only one way your scores can go!

As for me, I think that if I fail N4 (what I sat), I’ll continue on to N3 this year regardless. My difficulty is listening only, so I’m trying to expose myself to more Japanese tv and have joined a conversation group (starting this Sunday).

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:43 am

Awesome Graham! Sounds like you have a plan forward. A conversation group is a huge plus. I wish I could fit one into my crazy schedule.

For the N1 level it takes a lot of varied exposure to a lot of different materials, I just need to keep it up.

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TIinPA January 30, 2013 at 2:27 am

Still the same plan for me. Light text book studying along with ‘natural’ speech practice with a Japanese friend and trying to find things at my level (N5) to read.

I took the test here in the US so I guess I’ll have my results in the morning! Fingers crossed.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:44 am

It’s looking like the online results on the official site aren’t active yet, despite it being the 31st here in Japan. I hope they get their act together so you can see your results. I hope you have good news!

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Bintang January 30, 2013 at 2:41 am

This is my first N1 test and I failed too. I should take more time to improve my reading skills -,-

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:46 am

That seems to be the one thing that gets most folks – reading. Just need to do a lot of reading about a lot of different topics, not just novels, not just news, everything :) Good luck on the next test!

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Bintang January 31, 2013 at 1:07 am

Good luck for you too! Btw I forgot where I know this from, but I am using http://www.yookoso.com/pages/mailinglists.php for daily kanjis. Hope it is useful,sorry if you already know :D

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 2:26 pm

It’s always good to know about resources. I think I signed up for the daily grammar list via jgram.org from yookoso.com which is also pretty good.

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Kyokutan January 30, 2013 at 3:05 am

I wouldn’t worry about it too much. This year’s test seemed much harder than any of the previous ones I’ve taken. Hell, I passed the n1 two years ago but i got the worst score I’ve ever gotten on the n1 this time around, a 71.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:47 am

Well, that is a little more reassuring. I’ve been hearing back from a few people that this test was a lot harder than average. Here’s to hoping the July test isn’t as bad!

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Janice January 30, 2013 at 5:21 am

Hi Mac sorry you were disappointed. I can relate as I just took practice n3 since I’m taking test in July and I got 30 percent on everything except listening which was 80 percent! Ouch I’m in panic mode and hoping restructuring my lessons will help. The I know app for kanji is amazing FYI. Cheers !

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:50 am

I’ll have to check out more apps for kanji. I started using my app, iKanji about two years ago, and I know there have been a lot of other apps that have come out since then. I’ll check out iKnow and see if it is a good fit.

Janice, with a listening score like that, do you live in Japan and get a lot of exposure through conversation? Just curious how your listening can be really high and then everything else be lower.

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Surabhee January 30, 2013 at 5:41 am

Hey Mac,

Sorry to hear about your result. I have appeared for N2 this time and very anxious about the reading section. So i can totally understand how disappointed you must be feeling after seeing the score.

Anyways, i hope you clear the exam this year.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 12:52 am

I just need to do more natural reading, which I recommend for you as well. More speed, more confidence.

Let’s hope we both pass this year!

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Surabhee January 31, 2013 at 5:34 am

I passed N2! Got 103/180. But as i expected reading sucked big time, got 21/60. But thanks to vocabulary 44/60 and listening 38/60 i managed to pass.
I am feeling as if someone has taken a big burden of my shoulder. Feeling so happy that i can’t express it in words.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 2:32 pm

That’s really awesome! That reading score was a bit ぎりぎり :), but it is a pass none the less. Keep up the reading!

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Hilary January 30, 2013 at 7:52 am

I’m sorry to see you didn’t make it this round, but there’s always next time.

I’m still waiting (in Japan) for my results to come by mail… *crosses fingers*

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 2:33 pm

That’s always agonizing. Before, we had to wait until mid-March. By that time I had pretty much forgotten about the test. :)

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Lasse January 30, 2013 at 10:12 am

Hi there,

Actuallly, many Japanese teachers of Japanese language have told me that the test in July is usually somehow a bit easier than the test in December. So in that sense, you actually might’ve improved, it just cannot be seen only by watching the score.

As for me, I tried JLPT for the first time and passed N1. But I, too, thought that the test was very difficult. I used the Kanzen Master as my studying material, and in addition to that, I tried to read as much difficult Japanese text (for example university journals) as I could. Unfortunately, most of the grammar in the actual test wasn’t included in the Kanzen Master, so I had to go by feeling there. You never know what’s going to be in the actual test…

Anyway, if it is true that the test in July is a bit easier, I would recommend going for that. I’m sure that you’ll be able to pass the test!

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 2:38 pm

I can see that. When I passed the N2, I took the July test and came pretty close, then took the December test is just passed even though I put in a lot of study time. I’ll probably switch to doing more reading this time and go over a few drills before the exam again.

By the way, where did you find university journals? Any online resources you can recommend? I’ve been reading a lot of 論説 online, but they can be a bit tough to read quickly. Good to learn about Japan’s opinions though.

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Lasse February 3, 2013 at 11:29 am

I’ve been reading university journals in the “original format”, ie. actual paper journals in libraries. They have mostly been related to my own field of research.

However, although you might already be aware of this, the CiNii service (http://ci.nii.ac.jp/) contains countless articles covering a vast range of themes. Most of the articles listed in CiNii are not available online; however, the amount of articles readable online is still huge. Just select “CiNiiに本文あり” (or “include full-text”) and start browsing. Search and pick anything that might interest you even a bit! For example, you have a baby, right? How about reading something related to upbringing or education? Not only you get to know beneficial words and expressions, but also learn about the Japanese situation and ways of thinking.

Personally, I think that this is the best kind of exercise there is, in addition to studying grammar and vocabulary (although it can be quite frustrating).

Good luck!

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C January 30, 2013 at 12:37 pm

I’m sorry to hear about your results. I’m sure you’ll ace the exam next year! I really appreciate your posts, and I find them very informative and interesting!

I just started on my JLPT journey in July 2012. I took N3 and passed. Then I took N2 in December and…passed!? How is that even possible! The only one left for me is N1…and I am dreading that exam. Any pointers that you could give me would be greatly appreciated! I’m wondering if I should give myself 2 years for N1, or should I just attempt it this year and see how it goes…

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Definitely attempt it and see how it goes. At the very least you’ll have a good feeling for how far you need to go and what the actual test is like.

The N1 is different than the other levels in a lot of ways. For example, the grammar section actually tests every point of Japanese grammar, even particles sometimes, but with very complex sentences. It is a weird beast.

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Hannah January 30, 2013 at 3:13 pm

That sucks that you couldn’t raise your score much! Maybe the test was a little more difficult this winter. It was a lot harder than any practice tests and study books I had. :(

I failed it too, but for my first time I’m not too disappointed. Especially on the Listening, I thought I wouldn’t even break 19 ’cause I blew all the short response questions. ^^;
26/60 Language, 24/60 Reading, 32/60 Listening. I didn’t get a ton of studying in before it and I’m STILL annoyed they turned the heat off on us. So I’m thinking with more work and a warmer room, I can do it this July. Only 18 points to higher! (Though 18 points still feels like a long way off. orz)

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 3:03 pm

Those scores don’t look so bad. I think you could definitely do it in July with a little more studying and reading practice.

Heating and cooling at these test-taking places is always such a headache. I guess you just need to dress in layers :)

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Mariano January 30, 2013 at 3:55 pm

Hi Mac, sorry to hear that. I also came short, much more than expected. I got about the same score as you, 66, but reading was the weaker, even though it is actually my stronger point.I think I spent too much time on the grammar and vocabulary part and rushed too fast through the reading part.
How would you compare this years n1 to the previous? This was actually my first attempt a year after passing the n2.

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Clayton MacKnight January 31, 2013 at 3:15 pm

I took the July test, and I would say that the December test seemed a lot more difficult to me. I felt like the reading just took more time because it was a little more complicated. The information retrieval questions (the last two of the reading) seemed to just take a lot more time to skim through than the first test.

The grading system (IRT) is suppose to help curve the test to keep a difficult test from ruining everyone’s scores but I think it is still a little hit and miss.

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Matt January 30, 2013 at 6:19 pm

Sorry you didn’t pass, but to be honest you were cruising for a bad grade with your “gambling” strategy.

I would strongly recommend that for reading you ditch the textbooks and start reading light novels or full novels. Just go to Book-Off or something, pick a genre that interests you and grab whatever strikes your fancy. You saw from this test that the reading ranges from diatribes on the educational system to critiques of electronic dictionaries to sentimental reflections on childrens’ stories; N1 in my opinion is beyond the realm of test-prep books. If your weakness is comprehension then having to keep track of a whole novel’s worth of characters and plot developments will whip you into shape quickly. Plus you will get introduced to a ton of new vocab that will also tend to be repeated quite a bit in the span of just a few pages, which really eliminates the need to “study” it.

And believe me I feel you on the time thing, my son is 13 months and it’s nonstop from the moment he wakes up till the moment he conks out. Toddler energy my man. お前はもう死んでいる ^_^

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Clayton MacKnight February 1, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Your dead on Matt. I knew it was a fool’s errand, but I felt like I wouldn’t make it without so had to give it a try. You can see from my listening/language skills scores that I’m just not there yet.

I’ve definitely been doing a lot of reading lately. Unfortunately, a lot of it is about buying house because I’m looking to try to cash in on all the benefits before the Japanese government wises up and takes them all away :) Lots of specialized vocabulary, but actually the reading is pretty easy compared to N1, haha.

Anyway, thanks for the advice, I need to journey back out to Book off and see if I can find some more editorial or opinion pieces to read through, those seem to trouble me the most.
Good luck with the 13 month old!

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Kay January 30, 2013 at 8:37 pm

Ahh, it’s the 31st in Japan and results are still not out here =(

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Kay January 31, 2013 at 2:04 am

Yay! Results up.
http://imgur.com/dsUcQIy
Awesome ^^ I wasn’t expecting such a high score.

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andrew January 31, 2013 at 7:15 am

dang! nice score and pass on the N2!!

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Andrew January 30, 2013 at 11:29 pm

Agree w/ a lot said above. Foremost the test in December was a beast!!

If I don’t pass I’ll have to wait until December because of work most likely :((

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Clayton MacKnight February 1, 2013 at 3:28 pm

That has to be such a pain. Of course, having to sacrifice July 4th weekend to take a test is also a little bit of a nuisance :)

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Mitchell January 31, 2013 at 1:44 am

That’s tough :(

I managed to pass N2 this time round (this was my 2nd attempt)

I got 45/60 in Vocab/Grammar; 31/60 in Reading; and 58/60 in Listening. Total: 134/180

About what I was expecting in reading, and I’m stoked with the listening mark as I did indeed feel very confident in that section of the test. Am sort of surprised by the Vocab/Grammar mark as I felt more confident there but I guess not. Oh well, still stoked to have passed this time round.

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Clayton MacKnight February 1, 2013 at 3:29 pm

How did you prep for the listening? That is a pretty amazing score. It’s one thing to pass it, a completely different thing to nearly ace it. :)

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Mitchell February 1, 2013 at 3:52 pm

I watch A LOT of Japanese TV… probably more than is considered healthy. And I watch a variety of different shows (music shows, concerts, game shows, talk shows, news, etc.) so that really helps with the listening. I also found that a lot of the grammar I was studying in my drill books appeared in the listening tracks of the test (not so much in the actual grammar section though :P ) so that made it easier to comprehend what was being said.

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Matt January 31, 2013 at 2:34 am

Vocab & Grammar – 49/60
Reading – 34/60
Listening – 36/60

Total – 119/160

N1 = PASSED

Time for celebratory sushi!

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Clayton MacKnight February 1, 2013 at 3:31 pm

Very nice! That is a pretty good balanced score.

Do you prepare for the test specifically (drill books and such)? It looks like you have a pretty good grasp of grammar and vocab.

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Matt February 2, 2013 at 5:15 pm

Well, I got a B on the vocab and an A on grammar, which surprised me a bit because I figured it would be the other way around. I did not use any JLPT specific books, drills or otherwise, although I did try to do the tests from previous years to get used to test-taking with a time limit, and a couple N1 practice tests to better familiarize myself with the test format.

What I did for studying was spend maybe 6 months or so learning to read and write the 800+ kanji I still didn’t know with an Android app called “Obenkyo.” I supplemented this with reading a lot of manga and a couple of novels I picked up the last time I was in Japan, which by sheer dumb luck made frequent use of 由緒 and おっくう. I did some Anki vocab decks too but I didn’t stick with them for very long.

Once you know the kanji learning vocab is much easier since it’s quicker to look the words up (if you can’t figure them out from context), and reading books helps give you a better feel for sentence structure which makes the “put the pieces in the right order” questions a snap.

I thought I would do better on the listening section but I attribute it to kind of zoning out during the latter half. They only gave us a TEN minute break which was NOT enough to time to eat a snack, drink some water, and pee :P

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TIinPA January 31, 2013 at 2:38 am

‘Other Countries’ results are available.

Failed over all, failed language knowledge, passed listening. It’s improvement over the last time, but obviously not what I hoped for.

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Isaura January 31, 2013 at 5:53 am

Yes, are available, but I have to wait 2 hours, because now I am in my parents home, and if I didn’t pass, my parents could’nt imagine why I am depressed:)) But I hope I passed. I can write “yuuutsu” with Kanji by hand, yet, but I don’t want to write this word in my letters to my Japanese teachers and penpals!:))

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Clayton MacKnight February 1, 2013 at 3:34 pm

An improvement is always good. What level did you take?

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Isaura February 1, 2013 at 4:22 pm

I took N4 level. My kanji skill is good, but I think my listening skill “madamada desu”:)) Now I am preparing for N2 and I want to take N3 in December 2013:)) In Hungary JLPT are organized only in December.

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Francisco January 31, 2013 at 3:34 am

First of all, sorry to hear that… But I heard from everyone doing the N1 that it was really hard this time. And anyway, each failure only makes you stronger and eventually builds up to the final success. You’re already in the highest JLPT level, it’s just a matter of time until you conquer it as well.

I got the results for N4 and I passed, with 154 out of 180. What really surprised me was that I got 60/60 in the listening section. Didn’t expect that! Now I’m aiming for N3 (which was what I originally planned to take in December), started studying immediately after sitting of the JLPT in December. But depending on how my studies progress, I might even risk going for N2.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 6:56 am

That’s a great score on the N4! I would say you are well on your way to N3.

I would be a little careful, there is a bigger difference between N3 and N2 than N4 and N3. You really have to focus more on skills – reading and listening skills. Be able to take good notes and practice quick comprehensive reading.

Anyway, good luck, I’m sure you can make it to the top!

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MK January 31, 2013 at 3:52 am

Thanks for your regular updates. They kept me in check.

I’m sorry to hear that you weren’t successful. If you need some tips that have helped me gain overall proficiency in the language over the years, let me know. As you can tell by my scores, it was less “studying knowledge” and more “practical knowledge” that helped me.

I’m just very happy to have passed.
Language Knowledge – 55 / 60
Reading – 42/60 (ouch)
Listening – 60/60
Voc – A; Grammar – A
Total 157/180 (reading did me in)
N1 = Passed!

I’m really, really disappointed in my reading, but then again I’ve never been the most studious of people.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:09 pm

That is still a great score for the N1. A reading score like that is amazing.

I would be interested to hear what you do to round out your general proficiency. I suspect a lot of listening to TV shows and dramas?

From what I keep hearing from people, N1 is all about immersion. There really aren’t any books that are going to have all the information you need to pass the exam.

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Dan January 31, 2013 at 3:52 am

I took N1 but didn’t pass. I wasn’t overly confident, but I actually did worse than what I was expecting. Reading was my strongest section, followed by vocab (passed both) but I totally bombed out on the listening and failed that section! This really surprises me because I worked in a company all of last year where I spoke Japanese in person and on the telephone most days!!! Maybe it was just the test situation – I know that I missed some of those ones where they say the sentence and you have to pick the correct reply and also the last two really long ones as I lost concentration.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:11 pm

The last two really long ones are pretty tricky if you are not used to a test like this. Basically it comes down to taking good notes and practicing how to take those notes.

The New Kanzen Master Listening book is pretty good for this, it walks you through how to take great notes for the listening section. Helped me out a lot at least. Before that I was pretty lost too.

Quick Response questions are almost impossible to prep for, just have to do a lot of natural listening. Something I need to do more of because I know I missed a few there.

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vivzilla January 31, 2013 at 3:54 am

Aaaah sorry to hear about your results Mac.

As for me I juuuuusst scraped over the line for N5. Overall 95/180 (66/120, 29/60). And more importantly I beat my boyfriend’s score (not that its a competition ;-))

N4, lets do this.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Wow, that’s pretty close, but you made it!

Things should get easier now that you have a study pattern down. Good luck with N4. Are you thinking about taking it in July? Can you take it in July?

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Vivzilla February 10, 2013 at 4:12 am

Unfortunately Australia doesn’t have July tests so ill be taking it in December. I’m in no rush though.

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Russell January 31, 2013 at 4:32 am

I passed N5!!!!! 92/180 I’m so happy!!!

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Awesome!

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Nick January 31, 2013 at 4:55 am

N4 passed!!!
Although I’m sad to say that I just barely passed with a 90/180 score. One point less and I would have flunked! Vocab A, Grammar B and reading C. Shows that I really need to focus on the reading speed and accuracy. I am disappointed with my listening score of 36/60 since I thought I did very well on that section. I’m guessing however that the questions with time references (What time shall we leave the office?) messed me up.

On the whole, a little sad that I couldn’t pass with a better margin, but on the other hand, I’m self studying and relying on free materials with no textbooks (Genki or the like to read), so I guess I should be happy that I passed on my second attempt! All luck to you Mac for the next exam. Study well and thanks for reading and replying to each post; you surely care about your readers. :-D

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Yeah, studying on your own is pretty difficult, so great score!

Reading is always a toughy for the JLPT. The sooner you pick up some native materials to fight through the better off you’ll be. I remember after I passed 三級 (old N4) I started to try to hammer my way through a few books. It takes some time at first but then it gets faster and faster.

Good luck!

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Russell February 5, 2013 at 2:08 am

pass is a pass.. awesome job

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Mai January 31, 2013 at 4:57 am

I passed N2 on the first try, 1 year after getting N3. Vocab & Grammar – 43, Reading – 29, Listening – 34. Total 106/180, much lower than N3 (140/180) but I am very pleased because I didn’t have much time to study for it.
I’m sorry to hear about your result. Now I will start to study for N1 and your advices will be very helpful.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:21 pm

I will try my best to help you out! I will be trying a few new things to try to push up my general proficiency to a higher level.

Here goes nothing!

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Ioana January 31, 2013 at 5:13 am

I passed the N2 :D.
It was a near pass (106 points total), but it could’ve been even more so. Points don’t matter anyway ^^

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:22 pm

A pass is a pass. Excellent work!

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Afoofoo January 31, 2013 at 7:21 am

I can see why it would be upsetting that all that effort didn’t show through points, but I’m sure you’ve got Japanese down in real life! The test isn’t everything, especially a group people who can’t make up their mind in the listening section! XD

Which I should be telling myself; I’m a little down about my reading score. It was perfect. It was easy. I literally do not understand; it boggles my mind! But I passed N2 anyway (46 in language, 36 in reading, 35 in listening) Hehe, my listening blew :’)

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:27 pm

That is a great score for the test! That reading score is nothing to be ashamed at. Sometimes reading score comes down to if you didn’t overlook one small word or grammar point in an answer somewhere, which I always end up doing.

My greatest enemy is stupid mistakes. :) Good luck on the N1!

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Isaura January 31, 2013 at 11:01 am

I passed, too!:)) Vocabulary, Grammar and Reading are “A”, in the Listening section I received 31/60. Reading is my “nigate”:)) How can I take better my listening skill, Mac?

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm

Well, that all depends on what your weakness with listening is. Are you losing concentration? Do you have problems with the actual skill of listening to the different sounds? Does it seem to go too fast?

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Isaura February 4, 2013 at 4:04 pm

With my actual skill of listening it seems to go too fast.

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Clayton MacKnight February 6, 2013 at 1:04 am

Hmm, that is just a matter of getting use to it and make it more automatic. You should probably do more listening of the same dialog to get use to the patterns and stop yourself from translating it in your head. What I usually do is put old dialogs that I have on shuffle and listen to them as I walk to work. I have quite a lot of dialogs (like 12 hours worth at the N1 level) so it doesn’t get boring. I would start out small though and do more over time.

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Barbara January 31, 2013 at 12:32 pm

I couldn’t check today – I didn’t set up a password. Grrr. Does anyone know when I should expect them? Please not March.

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Ioana February 2, 2013 at 7:50 am

Depends on your area, but up to last year (when online results didn’t exist) the results came in somewhere between late February and mid-March.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:31 pm

I would think you would get them mid-February. People in Japan get them around now (Feb 6th), so I would think it would take an extra week (or two?) for them to get to the UK (that’s where you are, right?)

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Harry January 31, 2013 at 12:48 pm

N1: 40+22+21=83

It’s Tanabata, then.

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Clayton MacKnight February 4, 2013 at 3:32 pm

Is that lucky? :)

You came close. Looks like just a matter of some skills practice.

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Louise January 31, 2013 at 2:31 pm

I sat the N4, just checked my results and I failed by just a few marks. I’m a little disappointed, but the sectional marks were really useful. I did much better on the listening than I expected, got an A for the vocabulary as I expected so it was the reading and grammar which let me down.

I’m pleased I came so close to passing, because I had my little one in June I had very little time to revise for the N4 so I sat the test mainly to see where I was and to get the feel for the test. I’m still planning to sit the N3 in July and I’ve been doing regular revision, a few hours every couple of days, alternating between doing vocab and kanji one day and then grammar, reading and listening the next. So hopefully things will be better in July.

Although having said I too am gearing up to buy a house this summer (in the UK though, not Japan) so I can empathise with trying to revise whilst so busy!

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Clayton MacKnight February 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm

House-buying is such a major decision to work your way through. In Japan, it seems like things are all flipped around. You have to be a little more careful because houses actually lose value after you buy them. They are kind of seen like cars. The big question is just how much value they lose and how fast. :)

It will be a busy year that’s for sure. I’m not sure how much concentrated studying I will be able to do. Right now I’m gearing up to practice all the phrases and vocabulary I need to know just to talk to the 不動産.

Good luck on the N3!

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Kata January 31, 2013 at 3:58 pm

I took N2 for the second time and passed it. Barely (97/180), but I passed anyway. I’ll concentrate on reading from now on, as my dream is to read fluently in Japanese :)

I hope you will pass N1 next time. I still admire you for getting such a high result!

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Isaura February 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Kata, are you Hungarian?

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Kata February 10, 2013 at 12:33 pm

No, I am from Poland :)

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Clayton MacKnight February 6, 2013 at 3:36 pm

I pass is a pass. Great work, now it is on to N1!

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Kata February 10, 2013 at 12:34 pm

It is my dream! We need to work hard to pass :)

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Jane January 31, 2013 at 4:30 pm

I passed N3!! 113/180 *_* But I still need to work a lot on my listening skills….

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Clayton MacKnight February 6, 2013 at 3:38 pm

Nice! Listening should be easy enough to improve. Good luck on the next level!

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Bart January 31, 2013 at 6:59 pm

Barely, barely passed N2.

Vocab/ Grammar: 42
Reading: 22
Listening: 32

I’m kind of surprised at how bad I did in the reading section. I’ve been reading novels and non-fiction books in Japanese, but maybe I need to hit the JLPT Reading books a bit harder. Gotta love the curve!

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Clayton MacKnight February 8, 2013 at 1:25 am

A pass is a pass.

Yeah, I’m the same way, I can make my way through a book about buying houses which talks about taxes, exemptions, housing restrictions and laws, but some of those reading passages really trip me up. And the questions can be just as difficult!

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Fernando Braga January 31, 2013 at 8:24 pm

After being reproved in 2010, finally got N4! :D

Language knowledge: 72/120
Listening: 39/60
111/180

Now heading to be approved in N3 this year!!

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Clayton MacKnight February 8, 2013 at 1:25 am

Awesome! That’s a pretty good score overall too. Good luck on the N3!

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Adit February 2, 2013 at 10:35 am

I passed!
This is the first time I’m taking this exam, I took N4 exam. My score is:
Language Knowledge 62/120
Listening 42/60

My Vocabulary A, My grammar B, and My reading is A. I’m taking JLPT test again this July, for N2 test. I don’t know how the scoring for reference information, but based on comment above, I think my score is pretty average. Still, I feel more motivated than ever. Taking this test step by step it’s really a good thing. I hope I passed this year test too…^^

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Isaura February 4, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Ganbatte kudasai ne! You are very brave to have courage to take N2 in July!:)) Now I am preparing for N2, too, I memorized 1000 or so Kanji, and in my country JLPT are organized only in December, but I haven’t courage to take N2, only N3 this year:)) But I can help you in Kango learning, I introduce some Kango words in some tables here: http://www.szaku.hu

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Adit February 4, 2013 at 6:04 pm

Thanks… Isshou ni ganbattemimashou!…^^ I actually don’t know how much you have to learn to be qualified for N2 test, but I really have a tight schedule, and I can’t afford to tone the level down. I need to pass N2 certification before the end of the year, so that I can apply for my qualification learning in Japan. Right now, I memorized more or less 1500 kanji, and until a month before exam, I plan to raise it to 2000. I hope it will be enough. I’m desperately (and nervously) learning everything I can before the test…. >_<

I look up your site, a great site you have there. You really got into japanese culture…^^ Unfortunately, I can't read the language, so I can only look around. Anyway, I look forward for everyone help in learning japanese. If there's any tip you can share, it will be really helpful…^^

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Isaura February 4, 2013 at 6:28 pm

This site is not mine. I am only sending into this site every week a table about Kango words. If you search “Kango”, you can find my Kango tables.

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Gail February 3, 2013 at 11:41 pm

N2 results:

Language knowledge: 31
Reading: 30
Listening: 39

I’m still in shock that I actually managed to pass first time! I was already starting to plan out a study plan for the year based around having to resit in July and/or December, so to a certain extent I feel at a bit of a loss about what to do now. It wasn’t a particularly impressive pass grade (although I was happy to have scored at least 50% on all sections), so I have no ambitions to push on to N1 in the near future. In fact, I think I’m going to take a break from formal study and spend this year simply enjoying using the language.

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nino February 4, 2013 at 7:47 am

So, today they started sending out the results by snail mail. I have this small niggling question :

I applied via snail mail and there were problems in sending out my test voucher as the post office returned it to the JLPT office. I actually called the JLPT office a week before the exam and asked them if they had my voucher, and it turned out they did (because the post office returned it to them). Myself and the JLPT lady (who was very nice to me) patiently confirmed my address and we found nothing wrong with it, which made us wonder why the post office returned it to them in the first place. So in the end, they sent my test voucher via fax.

Now, I was thinking that the snail mail results would also have a similar problem? I live just outside Tokyo so I guess I will wait for a week; and if there is still nothing, I guess a call to the JLPT office will be in order.

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Sally February 4, 2013 at 7:49 am

Ugh. Failed my N4 by a couple of points. I am so discouraged…how do you guys remain motivated to keep trying? At this point I just want to pack it in. I studied so hard, and I thought I passed, but I did worse than on any practice test I ever took! Hau hau hau, I know. I’m so happy for you guys who passed, though–congrats! I felt like this year’s test was really brutal.

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Clayton MacKnight February 8, 2013 at 1:27 am

Sometimes the test can be like that unfortunately. It can focus on topics or grammar points that you are a little weak at and then it doesn’t come through. Don’t let it get you down!

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Nanashi February 4, 2013 at 5:05 pm

Hi
I took N5 and i took it well. I wanted to gamble initially for N4, thanks god i did not do that. I say i am pretty good at japanese. I talk in Japanese most of time and could pass N4 but is better right now to take the exam that is lower than your level. There was some tricky part even in N5. The trickiest is listening because i am used with fast speech and it was slow (i failed a few). Now i want to prepare for N3 in december. Now the problem will be Kanji and voc
Nanashi

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Isaura February 6, 2013 at 5:08 am

The best is studying every new words with Kanji:)) I am studying every words with Kanji, and “Kanji renshuu wa totemo tanoshii to omotteimasu”:))

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Hendry February 5, 2013 at 7:04 am

Hi Mac, keep on studying, i am sure one day you will passed your N1 with high score, 頑張って :)
I took N4 and passed with Language Knowledge & Reading = 90 / 120 and Listening = 30 / 60. I heard my sensei said if failed either section will failed the exam. So, my planing for coming exam N3 is study hard on both section to keep the balance score ;) Good Luck !

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Hilary February 6, 2013 at 6:24 am

N3 Results:

Grammar/Vocab: 29
Reading: 16
Listening: 29

Total 74/180

Surprisingly, I’m not devastated by my results. I definitely need to improve my reading skills but it’s not too far off for me. I think if I focus more on reading practice this year I can pass it in December.

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Clive1 February 7, 2013 at 3:11 pm

Vocab+grammar – 51
Reading – 18
Listening 25
= 94/180

N1 fail :( i failed! Starting to lose my interest now

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Clayton MacKnight February 8, 2013 at 1:20 am

With that score? That’s pretty close. I would say it is just a matter of what topics came up on the test for the reading.

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Clive February 8, 2013 at 3:05 am

Indeed right.. From now on i guess i have to put on more time reading boring editorials and warranties of refrigerators..

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Clayton MacKnight February 10, 2013 at 9:42 am

I’ve started reading a few editorials here and there. Some of them are interesting if you want to keep up with the topic of the day. Others are real snore-fests.

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Lucy February 10, 2013 at 6:56 am

Vocab/Grammer+reading: 76/120
Listening: 57/60

Total: 133/180

I’m surprised I got 3 Aces for Vocab, Grammar and Reading when the last time I took the N5 it was 2 B and a C. I think this website was one of the biggest help to me so thank you very much for creating this blog! ありがとうございます~

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Clayton MacKnight February 10, 2013 at 9:31 am

Thanks for the compliment!

That is a great score on listening, almost perfect! Now, it’s time for N4?

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Lucy February 10, 2013 at 10:12 am

Yup studying for it now, hope to join the July test ^^

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Deepaa February 11, 2013 at 5:28 am

Hi Mac,

Sorry to hear about your result but good luck for July.
I took N2 for the second time and didn’t pass :( . Infact my reading section is going to be down and down. Please suggest me what should I do…. how could i improve my reading section(読解).

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Clayton MacKnight February 13, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Doing lots of reading actually. I read a lot of essays to prepare for N2. Read every day, and if there is something you don’t clearly understand be sure to ask your teacher. That’s the best advice. NKM N2 for Reading is also pretty good too!

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Ben February 11, 2013 at 11:35 am

Sorry to read it didn’t go as planned for you Mac, but you really seem busy with other things at the moment, which are all in all probably much more important than test results.
I finally got good news the other day, as I’d posted in the “first impressions” sections.
I passed N2, score is 60/60 in Language Knowledge, 36/60 in Reading and 60/60 in Listening, total 156 out of 180.

So yes, reading needs work, as expected. I didn’t have time to finish this time, and found it much more difficult than the 模擬試験 I’d done (this was my first JLPT attempt ever, and I’m glad N2′s out of the way). Even had to take another JLPT type test at university (they opened a compulsary JLPT training class so we had to take on yet another N2 JLPT type exam in January) and again the reading was much easier, had time to finish, make definite choices for the answers etc… I’m still a little baffled by the length and type of material we were given in the December, I guess it’s really a lack of practice since a lot of people found this easy.
I’ve started working on honing speed reading skills with 速読の日本語, as recommended, though the amount of work here at INALCO is getting in the way. We’re doing French to Japanese summaries of social sciences articles at the moment which is really challenging, and more captivating than multiple choice questions. But i’ll get back to it as speed(ier) reading is a useful thing. Apart fom vocabulary issues, I don’t really have any major issues reading books or articles anymore, but I know I really need to work on speed and JLPT type quizzes if I ever intend to take on N1.

Cheers

ben

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Deepaa February 14, 2013 at 5:08 am

有難うございます。。。。。
I will start again.. and could you please tell me what is NKM N2?

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Clayton MacKnight February 17, 2013 at 5:06 am

Sorry,

NKM N2 = New Kanzen Master N2 Reading. A pretty good book over all.

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Barbara February 15, 2013 at 5:03 pm

Just got my N4 results and didn’t pass. Got an A for listening and vocab but a c for grammar. Needed 16 more marks to pass :( I posted just after the test that I felt it hadn’t gone well. Glad I can predict my results – knew I was okay on the first and last paper. The second one was tough. I need to sort out my reading strategies and practise those ‘re-structure the sentences’ questions. I have been doing N4 lately and am getting just a few wrong for paper 1 and 3 – like the test. Going to keep the balance of N3/N2 whilst doing N4 as basically I’m just reviewing. I know so much and I did pass all the practise tests; shame I didn’t do it on the day. Hopefully in July the room will be warm, I’ll have a proper desk and I won’t be ill. :)

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Clayton MacKnight February 17, 2013 at 5:11 am

Sometimes you just have a bad day, that day happens to be the day you take the test. :)

Sorry to hear that Barbara, I know how much you put into studying, but I’m sure it was just matter of jitters and maybe the subject matter being a little off. Sounds like you have a positive attitude about it, which is what is the most important!

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Stephen Arnquist February 16, 2013 at 12:56 pm

My December 2012 results: 27 Language Knowledge, 17 Reading, 32 Listening Total Score 76… only 5 points higher than my last JLTP N1 score, I feel you dude.

I’ve actually started studying the Japanese translations in my girlfriend’s eiken 1 books with her and I feel like I’m learning a lot faster. If you have friend or significant other who is interested in learning English, take advantage of it! Studying with someone makes it so much more meaningful and easier to remember than toiling away in solitude.

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Clayton MacKnight February 17, 2013 at 5:14 am

That sounds like a pretty smart idea about the Eiken textbooks. I’ve been curious about trying those out just to see because it is quite difficult to find difficult test-like reading in the wild so to speak. I mean I guess you could read everything you can get your hands on, but the Eiken books sound a little more efficient. Maybe you can pick up a few used.

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Derrick February 18, 2013 at 11:15 am

Well I got my N2 results in the post this morning. I had really convinced myself I had failed the test, was absolutely certain of it in fact. There wasn’t even a faint glimmer of hope in my mind as I opened the envelope….and it actually took me a few seconds of staring at the contents before I realised I had actually passed it! Unlike my near 100% clearance on N3 however, I was only middle of the road here – 41/60 on language knowledge, 31/60 on reading and 47/60 on listening. 119/180 total. Very happy with that! I thought I had completely blown the reading part so to get 50% is great.
So now my question is this – do I go for the N2 again in July and try to improve on this, before hitting N1 in December…. or try the N1 in July to get a feel for it and better prepare myself for taking it on in December….not sure which is best…. Any advice. If Ive already passed N2, is there any advantage in doing it again for a better score, other than for my own personal satisfaction?

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Clayton MacKnight February 18, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Personally, once I passed N2, I moved on to N1 the very next test (in July). The gap really isn’t as big as you might think. The N1 is just a tricky devil and so it is better to get used to it early on so you know what you are going up against. I would say with your scores, you will have a fighting chance of getting a good score. Also, if you are missing any grammar, doing the reading for N1 will probably bring it out.

As for trying to get a better score that is purely a personal thing. No one is going to care that much about your score, just whether you passed or not.

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Derrick February 18, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Yeah you’re probably right. I passed N2, nobody is going to ask me what my individual scores were for each element. And as you say, by studying for N1, you’re going to be revising stuff you studied for N2 anyway, especially grammar. So may as well just take the plunge and see what treats the N1 has in store! :)

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david February 19, 2013 at 2:10 am

I did not pass the test this time, but I suppose I knew that before even checking my score. Actually, my score was higher than I expected, 92/180, so I need to move up 8 points only. Now I have to get to Japan so I can take it in July and get this over with.

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Clayton MacKnight February 25, 2013 at 6:43 am

That’s not so bad. It seems like it could just be a matter of luck and chance with a score like that. Keep it up!

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N1Buster February 21, 2013 at 7:52 pm

I passed N1 on the first try after having taken the old 3kyuu test back in 2009 and after having failed the N2 one in 2011, falling only by 1 point below the pass line.

This time my scores are as follows:
Language knowledge: 60/60 Reading: 23/60 Listening: 30/60

I wouldn’t regard it as a well-ballanced score, but taking into account that my reading comprehension is not one of my strong points even in my native language as well, i’m not so distressed about it.

To my surprise, listening wasn’t a piece of cake, even though i encounter no difficulty when talking with native japaneese people at all. Maybe i was too nervous or something like that.

In the future i’m considering to widen my japanese knowledge by reading books, learning 四字熟語, kanjis, as well as a great deal of other phrases.

Good luck to everyone, who’s still struggling with the infamous N1 test! :)

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Clayton MacKnight February 25, 2013 at 6:44 am

Yeah, a lot of people said that the listening was more difficult than usually this time around. I think it was pretty difficult to be honest as well. You got great scores. Keep it up!

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Victoria May 31, 2013 at 8:51 am

Thanks for sharing your results here, even though they weren’t as you’d hoped. I found this page as I’m currently preparing for the N2 in July, but have fairly recently identified that my reading is going to be a major, major problem. I just scraped the N3 last December so most of N2 was always going to be a stretch six months later, but I’ve commited a lot to study and to the exam so it’s frustrating now to have just a month to go and feel underprepared. Still, reading your article here and seeing that someone else who is also highly commited to the exam is finding it a challenge makes me feel a bit better – perhaps this stuff is just HARD WORK!!! :) Which will make it more of an achievement when we both get the grades we want :)

By the way, I’ve also been taking the J.TEST which is available much more often than the JLPT here in Japan and has similar style questions. It’s really useful for identifying weak areas (they send a really good breakdown of your score after) and checking for improvements more frequently than is possible with the JLPT. It’s a little bit cheaper, too. I recommend it!

Good luck with your continued study. It sounds like you’re juggling a lot this year so don’t be too tough on yourself!

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Clayton MacKnight June 2, 2013 at 5:54 am

I’ve always thought about giving the J-Test a try. I’ve heard it comes in two flavors the fairly easy and unbelievably difficult. But, it also gives you detailed results and they do nice things like make the old tests available. Did you try the difficult one?

Thanks for the encouragement. This year has gotten tougher and tougher actually as my little girl gets bigger and bigger she eats up more of my time and energy. I’ve kept with my studies, but they have become a little more generalized instead of getting all stressed out about the test. :)

Good luck!

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Isaura June 2, 2013 at 6:53 am

Are the old tests available in the Internet? If yes, where are they available?

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Victoria June 2, 2013 at 7:47 am

Cheers! Yeah, the advanced one is pretty tough. I took the lower level one (“E-F”) in January then the higher level one (“A-D”) in March and May. There is quite a jump. In March I managed to improve my overall score, but not enough to “pass” the paper (as there’s a minimum requirement in each skill and my writing score was very low). May results aren’t out yet but I’m not sure I did much better!! They’ve actually introduced an elementary-level exam as well, now (“G”) and they do a business version too. I haven’t seen many past papers but they allow you to take the paper home with you afterwards and publish the answers and listening scripts on the website within a day or so (so if you make a note of your answers during the exam, I guess you could work out if you passed pretty quickly). The results are published about 3-4 weeks after the exam.

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Clayton MacKnight June 2, 2013 at 10:49 am

There is a writing section to the exam? Wow, I didn’t know that. Or do you mean reading?

Have you taken J-CATS?

http://www.j-cat.org/

It is a pretty cool test, you can do for free at home.

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Victoria June 2, 2013 at 11:28 am

There’s a writing section in the J.TEST. It’s not that long, but you have to know the readings for some kanji and be able to write kanji. The toughest part is they give you a start, middle and end part for a sentence and you have to join them together to make the whole sentence (obviously there are different ways you could do this all of which would be acceptable, so no answers are given for this portion of the test).

It’s not essay writing, like the IELTS for English, but it’s better than nothing. I fail at it, but I think it’s a good thing that at least one Japanese test measures output.

Cheers for the J-CATS link – I hadn’t seen that, so I’ll give it a try! Looks really good :)

Isaura June 2, 2013 at 6:51 am

What is the “J.TEST”?

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Victoria June 2, 2013 at 7:51 am

Here’s the website: http://j-test.jp/

All in Japanese, unfortunately, but the E-F level paper is pretty accessible to anyone around N3/N4 level so don’t be intimidated! There’s some more information about it on Wikipedia, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-Test

Seems relatively unknown amongst English speakers. There have been a couple of other westerners at the exams I’ve taken but it seems more popular amongst East Asians. I think some of the language schools here have their students take it to keep them focused. If you’re serious about improving rapidly (and don’t find the A-D paper too demoralizing) it’s a good idea, I think.

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lazuli August 22, 2013 at 8:57 pm

oh my….
it makes me so scary for my test on December TT
do your results on the real test matched the results you could get from a mock up test?

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Clayton MacKnight August 27, 2013 at 3:52 pm

For N1, mmm, not really. N1 covers so much stuff that it all depends on what is on the test. Sometimes the passages will be about a subject that you know, other times they won’t. It’s a little bit of luck involved. They are getting a little better about balancing out the tests though I think. For the lower levels N5 to N3, mock tests should be fairly accurate.

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lazuli August 28, 2013 at 8:32 pm

mmm…I see
I really need to study like a beast then ;D
thank you for sharing your experience^^

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